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Old 05-28-2013, 11:34 PM
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Default Sox Notes: Jones / De Aza

Fortunately the rain washed out what was looking like another comatose effort against a garbage pitcher.

In the mean time here's some Sox notes courtesy of Gonzo:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,1915154.story

The quick notes of the story:

Jones will NOT be sent to the minor leagues.
De Aza will NOT be moved out of the leadoff spot.

That is all.

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Old 05-29-2013, 12:07 AM
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Yep, exactly what I was thinking. It doesn't take long to figure out if they are going to even look like scoring some runs. That's 11 innings or so they haven't scored a run against the amazing Cubs team. Let's just hope they win at least one.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:39 AM
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There aren't better alternatives, so let's just hope they get better.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:44 AM
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There aren't better alternatives, so let's just hope they get better.
Yeah I don't see anybody who could bat lead off for us. Nobody has a great OBP on our team. Unless we are going to bat Conor or Rios lead off and I don't see how that will benefit the team.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:50 AM
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Hitting some home runs early in the season might have been the worst thing to happen to De Aza. His high strikeout totals and pull-happy approach are ridiculous. The only alternative leadoff hitter would be Gillaspie, who has a respectable .354 OBP, but I'm not convinced the lineup would be any better with him at the top.

I don't agree with everything Ventura does, but you know, he really doesn't have a lot of options with this team. There are just too many underachieving and/or bad players on the roster.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:08 AM
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Yeah I don't see anybody who could bat lead off for us. Nobody has a great OBP on our team. Unless we are going to bat Conor or Rios lead off and I don't see how that will benefit the team.
I thought Conor would be a better alternative since he continues to hit and has a higher on base %. At least ride him while he is fairly hot. But my guess is that management sees him as a platoon player when Beckham comes back so they don't want to move DeAza down then back up again.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:14 AM
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Fortunately the rain washed out what was looking like another comatose effort against a garbage pitcher.


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I disagree. Even though they were trailing early, they had Sale pitching. I think it is a negative when you waste his start because I always figure he will win when he goes out. Maybe that is being overly optimistic. That is now 2 straight missed starts and possible wins.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:20 AM
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I disagree. Even though they were trailing early, they had Sale pitching. I think it is a negative when you waste his start because I always figure he will win when he goes out. Maybe that is being overly optimistic. That is now 2 straight missed starts and possible wins.
The good news of it all was that Sale had no discomfort in 3 innings he threw so it looks like the little tendonitis scare was nothing more than the Sox being overly precautionary.

Tribune Sports section today also hinted the Sox may move his next start up since he's only thrown three innings in the past week. The Sox seem to have a pretty good idea on how to handle Sale.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:44 AM
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There aren't better alternatives, so let's just hope they get better.
That's great, but even the one guy that there does appear to be a better option for - or at least one worth trying - is still in the starting line-up every day.

Speaking of which, when is it OK to try Phegley? Flowers has gotten 29.5% of his career ABs this season. And, 30% of his hits have come this year, 25% of his HRs, 29.2% of his RBIs. His average, OBP, and slugging are .198/.203, .271/.296, .339/.373 respectively for 2013/career. There is nothing there that suggests he's going to get better with more time. The Sox have given him a start or so per week for the past couple of years and a full two months now to show what he has at this level and he's been frustrating. I know better than to expect much offensive output from any catcher (just look around the league, minus the top 5 or so), but even his defense - which was said to have been an upgrade over what we've had - has been frustrating. Phegley is raking in AAA and is a minor league gold glove winner - Can they just give this guy a shot already?
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:25 AM
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Bingo. Our minor leagues completely suck, which is why an overhaul is not a bad idea.
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:35 AM
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When do we start calling for PK's job? There isn't a player who's hurt the team more this year.
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:41 AM
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When do we start calling for PK's job? There isn't a player who's hurt the team more this year.
I dont know if hes hurt the team more than anyone else but yes he is up there. But like has been previous stated, whats the alternative? There is not much to fill his slot.
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:58 AM
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I dont know if hes hurt the team more than anyone else but yes he is up there. But like has been previous stated, whats the alternative? There is not much to fill his slot.
He is a middle of the lineup hitter with a Flowers-like OPS.
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:58 AM
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I dont know if hes hurt the team more than anyone else but yes he is up there. But like has been previous stated, whats the alternative? There is not much to fill his slot.
Right. Best case scenario is he gets hot and has trade value.
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Old 05-29-2013, 10:17 AM
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I called the post game show last night and pointed out that Phegley is hitting over .300 in the Minor Leagues. Flowers isn't hitting his weight here in Chicago. I asked why not bring him up now? Rongey said the White Sox didn't want to bring up a catcher at this time because the pitchers are familar with and like the catchers the White Sox have now. All I know is that this year the White Sox have 5 guys who are not hitting.( Dunn, Konerko, Flowers, DeAza and Keppinger) There are too many outs in this lineup and this 2013 season is going down the tubes because of it. You have a guy at Triple AAA who is hitting the daylights out of the ball. You simply bring him up. The only thing I can figure is that the White Sox organization don't have a high opinion of Phegley. This offense is so bad that when the team is losing by a couple of runs you get the impression that the team won't come back and win the game.
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