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Old 04-17-2014, 10:18 PM
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This is probably the most important pick in a long time. Who is it going to be? The H.S. kid who throws 100 or Tyler Beede?? Also, can we stop drafting "athletes" later and start drafting baseball players.
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Old 04-17-2014, 11:43 PM
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Baseball players aren't athletes?
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Old 04-18-2014, 07:09 AM
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Baseball players aren't athletes?
Not according to Kirby Puckett. :P
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:57 AM
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Surprised to see next to no conversation about the draft here when the Sox are picking #3.

It should be interesting to see if they pass on the last man standing of the big 3 (Rodon/Aiken/Kolek) or move to go under-slot with a Nola/Beede/Newcomb type. They could potentially draft Hoffman and sign him way under-slot as there are some people with the thought that he is the best pitcher in the class. He is an athlete with a nice repertoire of pitches and a good frame.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:12 PM
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Per Keith Law, Reinsdorf and Williams Jr were scouting Aaron Nola today. I'd think he'd be a reach. He's one of the nearest to ML ready, though, but a lower upside than others.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:38 PM
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Per Keith Law, Reinsdorf and Williams Jr were scouting Aaron Nola today. I'd think he'd be a reach. He's one of the nearest to ML ready, though, but a lower upside than others.
Yeah but no harm in keeping tabs on other guys, the Sox are in a vulnerable position in that there is a clear "Big 3" in this draft and they hold the 3rd overall pick; what happens if one of these guys blows their arm out between now and the Draft?

I guess you can also make an argument that a team like the Sox, in such desperate need of talent at the MILB level might be better off in the long run by going under slot with their first pick and then using some of those cost savings to throw some money at some other high risk/high upside guys in the later round? I'm not a pro scout so my opinion is pretty invalid in this discussion, but the more I read about about (especially) Kolek and Aiken the more I hope one of them are the guy, even if they will require more time to get to the Majors.
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Old 05-23-2014, 12:57 AM
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Yeah but no harm in keeping tabs on other guys, the Sox are in a vulnerable position in that there is a clear "Big 3" in this draft and they hold the 3rd overall pick; what happens if one of these guys blows their arm out between now and the Draft?

I guess you can also make an argument that a team like the Sox, in such desperate need of talent at the MILB level might be better off in the long run by going under slot with their first pick and then using some of those cost savings to throw some money at some other high risk/high upside guys in the later round? I'm not a pro scout so my opinion is pretty invalid in this discussion, but the more I read about about (especially) Kolek and Aiken the more I hope one of them are the guy, even if they will require more time to get to the Majors.
I don't really disagree, but I just think that this year is a rare, rare year where we get a top 5 pick. I would urge us to get some real upside. I've seen NOLA pitch several times - he's polished. It's just my conclusion that seeing this plus what was heavy interest in Hoffman (not as polished but pretty polished and better stuff), that we are looking for someone we can use in the MLs fairly quickly That may be pushing it, though.
What did I read - it's our 2nd top 5 pick in 25 years or something like that? Remarkable. I'd like that to continue.
I didn't know that Williams Jr was a Sox scout or in the organization at all; and JR being there is interesting.
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No HS pitcher with our 1st pick, please.
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:21 AM
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No HS pitcher with our 1st pick, please.
I see your point but there are exceptions. For example, if Brady Aiken is there when the Sox pick, I think would take him. Some scouts have said that a high end projection for Aiken would be Clayton Kershaw or Cliff Lee. Hard to pass on upside like that, particularly if Carlos Rodon is off the board and the Marlins take Tyler Kolek.
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Old 05-23-2014, 01:18 PM
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Yup, the top 3 picks this year are pretty obvious, the only exception could be if you make a case for Alex Jackson, but if we don't go with 1 of those 4 (Rodon-Aiken-Kolek-Jackson), its going to be difficult to swallow.
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Old 05-23-2014, 03:39 PM
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I think it is going to be Aaron Nola from LSU, slightly below slot, and the Sox will use the cash to get multiple high upside high school arms later in the draft. And I would be fine with that. Nola hits 95 with excellent command and movement. Plus, he's a good athlete. Guys like that can be pretty dominant like Peavy or Hudson.
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I think it is going to be Aaron Nola from LSU, slightly below slot, and the Sox will use the cash to get multiple high upside high school arms later in the draft. And I would be fine with that. Nola hits 95 with excellent command and movement. Plus, he's a good athlete. Guys like that can be pretty dominant like Peavy or Hudson.
Saw a thing on (I think it was) MLB Trade Rumors that agreed with this. Said both Kenny and (interestingly) Jerry Reinsdorf were there scouting him not long ago.


Der. Tragg covered this upthread. Well done X.
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I don't really disagree, but I just think that this year is a rare, rare year where we get a top 5 pick. I would urge us to get some real upside. I've seen NOLA pitch several times - he's polished. It's just my conclusion that seeing this plus what was heavy interest in Hoffman (not as polished but pretty polished and better stuff), that we are looking for someone we can use in the MLs fairly quickly That may be pushing it, though.
What did I read - it's our 2nd top 5 pick in 25 years or something like that? Remarkable. I'd like that to continue.
I didn't know that Williams Jr was a Sox scout or in the organization at all; and JR being there is interesting.
Tragg:

I've been told on more than one occasion by sources that JR "inserts" himself into the draft process going so far supposedly as to "recommend" who the top pick / picks should be.

If that's true it does put the scouting director in a difficult position...would you go against your boss?

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Old 05-23-2014, 07:25 PM
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I think it is going to be Aaron Nola from LSU, slightly below slot, and the Sox will use the cash to get multiple high upside high school arms later in the draft. And I would be fine with that. Nola hits 95 with excellent command and movement. Plus, he's a good athlete. Guys like that can be pretty dominant like Peavy or Hudson.
Agree. Plus, Rodon is a Boras agent. I am not so sure he would be a lock to be picked by the Sox at 3.
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Old 05-24-2014, 08:33 AM
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I think it is going to be Aaron Nola from LSU, slightly below slot, and the Sox will use the cash to get multiple high upside high school arms later in the draft. And I would be fine with that. Nola hits 95 with excellent command and movement. Plus, he's a good athlete. Guys like that can be pretty dominant like Peavy or Hudson.
I agree- I'm not really a draft expert- but I've heard that Nola is the most "MLB ready" of the top 10 prospects- I think the Sox would like to take advantage of what they've currently built to make a run in 2015-2016 vs. investing in a draft choice that will take 3-4 years to develop.

Nola could fill one of the three huge gaps in the major league roster (RH starter/#2, corner outfielder to go with Eaton/Garcia, closer).
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